Atharvaveda · Love and obedience

Whose Approval? The Many Voices of Concord

Approval can be mutual recognition or a demand that one person's view rule the other. III.30's concord hymn speaks to a household rather than placing one partner at the center. Honeyed self-presentation and assembly favor offer adjacent but different ideas of being received well.

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Hymns discussed in this article

Begin with the verses shown here. Open the other cited hymns to compare their images and aims.

III.30

ATHARVAVEDA · BOOK III IN FOCUS

For concord

  1. Like-heartedness, like-mindedness, non-hostility do I make for you; do ye show affection (hary) the one toward the other, as the inviolable [cow] toward her calf when born.

  2. Be the son submissive to the father, like-minded with the mother; let the wife to the husband speak words (vā́c) full of honey, wealful.

  3. Let not brother hate brother, nor sister sister; becoming accordant (samyáñc), of like courses, speak ye words auspiciously (bhadráyā).

  4. That incantation in virtue of which the gods do not go apart, nor hate one another mutually, we perform in your house, concord for [your] men (púruṣa).

Read the remaining 3 verses of III.30
  1. Having superiors (jyā́yasvant), intentful, be ye not divided, accomplishing together, moving on with joint labor (sádhura); come hither speaking what is agreeable one to another; I make you united (sadhrīcī́na), like-minded.

  2. Your drinking (prapā́) [be] the same, in common your share of food; in the same harness (yóktra) do I join ⌊yuj⌋ you together; worship ye Agni united, like spokes about a nave.

  3. United, like-minded I make you, of one bunch, all of you, by [my] conciliation; [be] like the gods defending immortality (amṛ́ta); late and early be well-willing yours.

Whitney–Lanman translation as printed (1905) · Read III.30 at Wikisource ↗

I.34

ATHARVAVEDA · BOOK I ALSO CITED

A love-spell: with a sweet herb

Read comparison hymn I.34 (5 verses)
  1. This plant is honey-(mádhu-)born; with honey we dig thee; forth from honey art thou engendered; ⌊so⌋ do thou make us possessed of honey.

  2. At the tip of my tongue honey, at the root of my tongue honeyedness; mayest thou be altogether in my power (krátu), mayest thou come unto my intent (cittá).

  3. Honeyed (mádhumant) [is] my in-stepping, honeyed my forth-going; with my voice I speak what is honeyed; may I be of honey-aspect.

  4. Than honey am I sweeter (mádhu), than the honey-plant more honeyed; of me verily shalt thou be fond (? van), as of a honeyed branch.

  5. About thee with an encompassing (paritatnú) sugar-cane have I gone, in order to absence of mutual hatred; that thou mayest be one loving me, that thou mayest be one not going away from me.

Whitney–Lanman translation as printed (1905) · Read I.34 at Wikisource ↗

VII.12(13)

ATHARVAVEDA · BOOK VII ALSO CITED

For success in the assembly

Read comparison hymn VII.12 (13) (4 verses)
  1. Let both assembly (sabhā́) and gathering (sámiti), the two daughters of Prajāpati, accordant, favor me; with whom I shall come together, may he desire to aid (? upa-çikṣ) me; may I speak what is pleasant among those who have come together, O Fathers.

  2. We know thy name, O assembly; verily sport (naríṣṭā) by name art thou; whoever are thine assembly-sitters, let them be of like speech with me.

  3. Of these that sit together I take to myself the splendor, the discernment (vijñā́na); of this whole gathering (saṁsád) make me, O Indra, possessor of the fortune (bhagín).

  4. Your mind that is gone away, that is bound either here or here—that of you we cause to turn hither; in me let your mind rest.

Whitney–Lanman translation as printed (1905) · Read VII.12 (13) at Wikisource ↗

The household speaks in several directions

III.30 moves quickly among family roles. It asks a son to be like-minded with his mother and attentive to his father, a wife to speak honeyed words to her husband, and siblings to avoid hatred. Its fifth verse asks the group to work together and speak agreeably. These lines assume hierarchy, yet the hymn's aim is a network of relations, not a single person's approval as a gate for everyone else. Its plural address is important. A contemporary benefit that makes a target seek my approval selects one authority and one subordinate. It may echo the ancient wish for accord at a very broad level, but it narrows and redirects the poem's collective field.

I.34 sweetens the petitioner instead

I.34 sets honey on the speaker's tongue and extends sweetness to voice, coming, going, and appearance. It asks that the desired other love and not depart. This poem is closer to seeking favorable reception, yet it works through the petitioner's attractive qualities, not the other person's dependence on approval. It also includes a wish for the beloved to come under the speaker's intention, so its sweetness is not innocent of control. Compared with III.30's many household voices, I.34 centers one speaker who wants a particular result. That difference helps a reader see how an agreeable manner and an approval-seeking dynamic are separate phenomena, even when both involve pleasing someone.

An assembly's favor is public standing

VII.12 (13) asks an assembly and gathering to favor the speaker. Its second verse wants those who sit there to be of like speech, and its third seeks the group's splendor and discernment. The setting is public deliberation, not a romance in which one individual waits for another's permission. The hymn makes approval consequential in a social arena where the speaker must be heard. Set against III.30, it clarifies that favorable response can belong to a whole audience rather than a partner. Set against I.34, it changes the receiver of the appeal from a desired person to a collective. None supplies a promise that a named target will seek the petitioner's judgment.

The Open Approval is an invention

“Make a target person seek my approval” and The Open Approval are original modern working and benefit. No cited passage states that another person will become reliant on the petitioner's approval. The old sources voice desired concord, personal attractiveness, and public favor, each within its own structure and social setting. A reader can use them to ask whether they want to be heard, trusted, or placed above someone else; those aims differ. Historical honesty requires keeping the modern psychological claim outside III.30. Its household hierarchy is already complex enough without treating it as authorization for controlling a contemporary partner's choices or confidence.

Count the speakers and listeners

In III.30.2–3, a wife, son, brother, and sister appear among the relations asked to speak or live without hostility. In I.34, the petitioner wants honey on their own tongue and a beloved's favorable response. In VII.12 (13).1–3, a speaker asks an assembly for favor and standing. The number of people and the path of speech change in every case. None puts a target person into the role of seeking the petitioner's approval. The comparison shows why a general theme of agreement cannot validate that very specific modern power relation.

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